The second multiplication of loaves (Mk 8:20-8:20)

“‘Do you remember

The seven loaves

For the four thousand?

How many baskets

Full of broken pieces

Did you collect?’

They said to him.

‘Seven.’”

 

ὅτε τοὺς ἑπτὰ εἰς τοὺς τετρακισχιλίους, πόσων σπυρίδων πληρώματα κλασμάτων ἤρατε; καὶ λέγουσιν Ἑπτά.

 

Then Jesus, like in Matthew, chapter 16:10, asked them to remember how they had 7 loaves of bread for the 4,000 people (ὅτε τοὺς ἑπτὰ εἰς τοὺς τετρακισχιλίους) in the second multiplication of bread loaves.  He asked them how many big baskets of the broken fragment pieces were gathered as left overs (πόσων σπυρίδων πληρώματα κλασμάτων ἤρατε).  They responded 7 (καὶ λέγουσιν Ἑπτά).  All this had just happened in chapter 8:1-10.  How could they be so forgetful?

 

Jesus reminds them of the multiplication of the loaves (Mt 16:9-16:10)

“Do you still not perceive?

Do you not remember

The five loaves

For the five thousand?

Do you not remember

How many hand baskets

You gathered?

Do you not remember

The seven loaves

For the four thousand?

Do you not remember

How many big wicker baskets

You gathered?”

 

οὔπω νοεῖτε, οὐδὲ μνημονεύετε τοὺς πέντε ἄρτους τῶν πεντακισχιλίων καὶ πόσους κοφίνους ἐλάβετε;

οὐδὲ τοὺς ἑπτὰ ἄρτους τῶν τετρακισχιλίων καὶ πόσας σπυρίδας ἐλάβετε;

 

This is similar to Mark, chapter 8:18-21, where the disciples responded to these questions.  Jesus clearly reminded them of the two times that he had multiplied the loaves of bread.  Was that not good enough for them?  They did not yet seem to understand or perceive what was going on (οὔπω νοεῖτε).  Did they not remember (οὐδὲ μνημονεύετε) the 5 loaves of bread for the 5,000 people (τοὺς πέντε ἄρτους τῶν πεντακισχιλίων) and all the fragments that they gathered in the hand baskets that was left over, since it had just happened in chapter 14:30-31?  Did they not remember (οὐδὲ) how they had 7 loaves of bread for the 4,000 people (τοὺς ἑπτὰ ἄρτους τῶν τετρακισχιλίων) and the many big baskets of fragments were gathered of left overs (καὶ πόσας σπυρίδας ἐλάβετε), since that had just happened in chapter 15:32-38?  How could they be so forgetful?